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		<title>Comment on Web Arted Feb 3rd by Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice batch. I especially like Black Cat and the Enchantress. I like the way the omission of detail forms the Black Cats hair or the arm rest that the Enchantress is resting on.

These are old but interesting from an graphic point of view. As a designer, it&#039;s our job to relay a message visually and I think these do it well:

http://2photo.ru/en/post/24699</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice batch. I especially like Black Cat and the Enchantress. I like the way the omission of detail forms the Black Cats hair or the arm rest that the Enchantress is resting on.</p>
<p>These are old but interesting from an graphic point of view. As a designer, it&#8217;s our job to relay a message visually and I think these do it well:</p>
<p><a href="http://2photo.ru/en/post/24699" rel="nofollow">http://2photo.ru/en/post/24699</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 14: &#8216;Before Watchmen&#8217; moving forward sans its Guardian. by Chris Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say the new Rocketeer stuff is more like little tribute pieces, rather than being part of cannon. I thought the same of the newer Spirit material. Maybe it&#039;s good, maybe it&#039;s worthy, but is it part of the whole? No. Sometimes Lucas insists Star Wars is just the six films, other times it expands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say the new Rocketeer stuff is more like little tribute pieces, rather than being part of cannon. I thought the same of the newer Spirit material. Maybe it&#8217;s good, maybe it&#8217;s worthy, but is it part of the whole? No. Sometimes Lucas insists Star Wars is just the six films, other times it expands.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Chase and The Grail by Chris Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now, I&#039;m hoping to get back into buying original comics art pages. I had just gotten into it when fortunes changed years ago and I stopped. But I&#039;d like to slowly begin buying pages. And right now, my holy grail is going to be a Mike Parobeck page. Because he died so young, it&#039;s rare and the prices are pretty dear. But I&#039;m a patient one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, I&#8217;m hoping to get back into buying original comics art pages. I had just gotten into it when fortunes changed years ago and I stopped. But I&#8217;d like to slowly begin buying pages. And right now, my holy grail is going to be a Mike Parobeck page. Because he died so young, it&#8217;s rare and the prices are pretty dear. But I&#8217;m a patient one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 14: &#8216;Before Watchmen&#8217; moving forward sans its Guardian. by Scott VanderPloeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott VanderPloeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only difference is that Dave Stevens isn&#039;t around to say anything about it. Plus a lot less people read Rocketeer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only difference is that Dave Stevens isn&#8217;t around to say anything about it. Plus a lot less people read Rocketeer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 14: &#8216;Before Watchmen&#8217; moving forward sans its Guardian. by Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.comicbookdaily.com/columns/the-big-comic-comfy-couch/episode-14-before-watchmen-moving-forward-sans-its-guardian/#comment-5849</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally different things Scott.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 14: &#8216;Before Watchmen&#8217; moving forward sans its Guardian. by Scott VanderPloeg</title>
		<link>http://www.comicbookdaily.com/columns/the-big-comic-comfy-couch/episode-14-before-watchmen-moving-forward-sans-its-guardian/#comment-5848</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott VanderPloeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where was this uproar when IDW did an anthology of Dave Stevens&#039; Rocketeer? That was a complete story, with nothing additional needed or required. Yet a group of talented creators threw in their two cents and it was so successful a second series has been announced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where was this uproar when IDW did an anthology of Dave Stevens&#8217; Rocketeer? That was a complete story, with nothing additional needed or required. Yet a group of talented creators threw in their two cents and it was so successful a second series has been announced.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I like comic books by SentryXI</title>
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		<dc:creator>SentryXI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you like comic books, why are you not reading Naughty and Nice?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 14: &#8216;Before Watchmen&#8217; moving forward sans its Guardian. by Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 03:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this write up and I like Peters comments because I think it reflects sentiments that many of us share.

&lt;b&gt;Is DC in business to do something other than make money?&lt;/b&gt;
Yes there are. They have corporate responsibilities to uphold… transparency, values, ethics and promises they&#039;ve made whether written or implied.

I don&#039;t think anyone wants to discourage DC from making money but it&#039;s a question of how they go about doing it… and if what they are doing is truly in their best interest. So the issue is one of taste and leadership.

Unfortunately, the law does not make the distinction between the &quot;letter&quot; and the &quot;spirit&quot; of a contract...

Historically, prequels and sequels are rarely as good as the original (the only exceptions that come to mind are Aliens and T2). Still, it&#039;s not to say that it&#039;s not possible… so politics aside, I&#039;m looking forward to this and I&#039;ll judge these books on their own merit.

&lt;b&gt;Speaking of the &quot;big red panic button&quot;...&lt;/b&gt;
I can tell you that many companies do turn to rebranding as a last resort... their current efforts do feel somewhat desperate so I was thinking the same thing. No doubt DC has a lot of pressure to make the numbers from Time Warner but hopefully they do have a viable plan beyond a shiny new logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this write up and I like Peters comments because I think it reflects sentiments that many of us share.</p>
<p><b>Is DC in business to do something other than make money?</b><br />
Yes there are. They have corporate responsibilities to uphold… transparency, values, ethics and promises they&#8217;ve made whether written or implied.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone wants to discourage DC from making money but it&#8217;s a question of how they go about doing it… and if what they are doing is truly in their best interest. So the issue is one of taste and leadership.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the law does not make the distinction between the &#8220;letter&#8221; and the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of a contract&#8230;</p>
<p>Historically, prequels and sequels are rarely as good as the original (the only exceptions that come to mind are Aliens and T2). Still, it&#8217;s not to say that it&#8217;s not possible… so politics aside, I&#8217;m looking forward to this and I&#8217;ll judge these books on their own merit.</p>
<p><b>Speaking of the &#8220;big red panic button&#8221;&#8230;</b><br />
I can tell you that many companies do turn to rebranding as a last resort&#8230; their current efforts do feel somewhat desperate so I was thinking the same thing. No doubt DC has a lot of pressure to make the numbers from Time Warner but hopefully they do have a viable plan beyond a shiny new logo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 14: &#8216;Before Watchmen&#8217; moving forward sans its Guardian. by Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get what everyone is saying, it&#039;s really not a legal issue, it&#039;s a moral one. (and yes, I&#039;m aware of all the &#039;Moore uses public characters in his work argument) I believe that this is just another example of how morally bankrupt the comic industry is towards it&#039;s creators. It&#039;s a thankless job. 

The thing that really irks me is Straczynski&#039;s comments about working on Watchmen 2 and comparing it to if someone were to do a Babylon 5 prequel. 

&quot;“So now – apples to apples – let’s make the B5 comparison,” he continued. “Let’s say Warner Bros. came to me and said, ‘we want to do more Babylon 5, and we want you to run the whole thing. We’ll pay you anything you want, give you a proper budget, and you will have complete creative freedom.’ [...] So let’s say that Warners makes that offer, and I said, ‘No, I don’t want it, take your accursed money, your big budget and your complete creative freedom and begone, get thee behind me Satan!’ Let’s say they came back and said ‘Okay, then how about we pay you vast sums of money just to consult? How about that?’ [...] ‘What if we sweeten the deal? What if we offer to give you full ownership of Babylon 5, legally and contractually, so you own it? How about that?’&quot;

The point is that Moore doesn&#039;t trust DC/Warners at this point. He&#039;s been burned by them quite a few times. Moore is a difficult person in general and he&#039;s obviously a flawed man, but there was an initial agreement that the rights would revert back to him, David Brothers at 4thletter.net puts it best

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Moore and Gibbons were supposed to gain ownership, or something similar, once the book had been out of print for a year. From what I’ve heard, it was a good contract, totally reasonable… but the book they made was so good that it generated so much demand that taking it out of print would be throwing away dollars. The future came out of nowhere and screwed up the plans.

Once DC Comics realized that, though, I think they should have renegotiated with the creative team to keep it in print, give them some share of the rights, and then get together to take money baths down at the bank. Instead, they went for the short-term gain, and now the trail of destruction that sits between DC and Alan Moore is unforgivable. They had a chance to make good, to not pull all of the tricks the comics industry is known for pulling, and didn’t. Their short-term business sense said that taking the money and running was a good idea. Long-term thinking would’ve told them that giving Moore and Gibbons what they agreed on, and then nurturing that relationship over the next 25 years, would have let them make a ton of money. It’s a complicated situation and I’m (obviously) not an entertainment lawyer, but I genuinely believe that it should have gone down differently. There’s a moral aspect that should not have been ignored.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

So, yeah - basically what Scotty said: vote with your wallet. This is something that&#039;s going to make a lot of money, and has with the exception of Straczynski alot of visionary and creative voices attached to it.. but for me, it just seems wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get what everyone is saying, it&#8217;s really not a legal issue, it&#8217;s a moral one. (and yes, I&#8217;m aware of all the &#8216;Moore uses public characters in his work argument) I believe that this is just another example of how morally bankrupt the comic industry is towards it&#8217;s creators. It&#8217;s a thankless job. </p>
<p>The thing that really irks me is Straczynski&#8217;s comments about working on Watchmen 2 and comparing it to if someone were to do a Babylon 5 prequel. </p>
<p>&#8220;“So now – apples to apples – let’s make the B5 comparison,” he continued. “Let’s say Warner Bros. came to me and said, ‘we want to do more Babylon 5, and we want you to run the whole thing. We’ll pay you anything you want, give you a proper budget, and you will have complete creative freedom.’ [...] So let’s say that Warners makes that offer, and I said, ‘No, I don’t want it, take your accursed money, your big budget and your complete creative freedom and begone, get thee behind me Satan!’ Let’s say they came back and said ‘Okay, then how about we pay you vast sums of money just to consult? How about that?’ [...] ‘What if we sweeten the deal? What if we offer to give you full ownership of Babylon 5, legally and contractually, so you own it? How about that?’&#8221;</p>
<p>The point is that Moore doesn&#8217;t trust DC/Warners at this point. He&#8217;s been burned by them quite a few times. Moore is a difficult person in general and he&#8217;s obviously a flawed man, but there was an initial agreement that the rights would revert back to him, David Brothers at 4thletter.net puts it best</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Moore and Gibbons were supposed to gain ownership, or something similar, once the book had been out of print for a year. From what I’ve heard, it was a good contract, totally reasonable… but the book they made was so good that it generated so much demand that taking it out of print would be throwing away dollars. The future came out of nowhere and screwed up the plans.</p>
<p>Once DC Comics realized that, though, I think they should have renegotiated with the creative team to keep it in print, give them some share of the rights, and then get together to take money baths down at the bank. Instead, they went for the short-term gain, and now the trail of destruction that sits between DC and Alan Moore is unforgivable. They had a chance to make good, to not pull all of the tricks the comics industry is known for pulling, and didn’t. Their short-term business sense said that taking the money and running was a good idea. Long-term thinking would’ve told them that giving Moore and Gibbons what they agreed on, and then nurturing that relationship over the next 25 years, would have let them make a ton of money. It’s a complicated situation and I’m (obviously) not an entertainment lawyer, but I genuinely believe that it should have gone down differently. There’s a moral aspect that should not have been ignored.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>So, yeah &#8211; basically what Scotty said: vote with your wallet. This is something that&#8217;s going to make a lot of money, and has with the exception of Straczynski alot of visionary and creative voices attached to it.. but for me, it just seems wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 14: &#8216;Before Watchmen&#8217; moving forward sans its Guardian. by Scott VanderPloeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott VanderPloeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is DC in business to do something other than make money? The best way to support your opinion is to not purchase any of the Before Watchmen comics.</description>
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